What would the EBB cost ?

DaveC
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby DaveC » Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:39 pm

It is not falling to pieces,just needs a bit of work here and there. Best ground in the league.
Dom Sterlings Left Leg
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Dom Sterlings Left Leg » Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:02 pm

Its 9pm and i bet the Rec is currently quieter than some joke like Boreham Wood on a match day, no atmosphere at all..

The point being surely its the fans that make the atmosphere and a new ground would be just the same if by some miracle the powers that be, club, council and other interested parties could rustle up a deal to build one.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Anon E Mouse » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:45 pm

Johnmat wrote:There is one thing you all should remember the only reason there is still an ATFC is because we didnt own our ground if you look at clubs who have financial trouble there is always someone with an eye on the ground so be happy with what you have and be careful what you wish for


Very good point.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Anon E Mouse » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:46 pm

DaveC wrote:It is not falling to pieces,just needs a bit of work here and there. Best ground in the league.


Without doubt.
Don't wish away the biggest asset we have.
It's worth a lot of points per season and most of us love it.
CH
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby CH » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:47 pm

Any redevelopment would need to be carefully planned and considered. I always thought it would be better to do it while we are in the conference as we are less likely to fall foul of any over officious ground grading.

For example, we need 2000 seats if we are in league 2, so we can't just bulldoze the south stand whenever we feel like it.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Desertshot » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:13 am

chimpster99 wrote:
Anon E Mouse wrote:All I do know, is there is no better ground to watch your football in, on days like today.
That atmosphere just wouldn't be created in some plastic out of town nothingness of a ground.
The Rec is our home and long may it last.
Colour, Passion, East Bank rocking, North stand joining in. Never want to leave.

Q the ...you aren't forward looking enough comments, and I've been called a lot of names this week. Well I don't care, I love watching my football at the Rec.


Great post and so true. I'd prefer a sympathetic redevelopment of the Rec any day - new South stand, new West stand with hotel/conferencing, possibly some new floodlights and a quick tart up of the rest. Much more affordable and keeps the soul of the club. Come on RBC, you know it makes sense!!


Agree 100%... and I believe the East Bank is the heartbeat of our club.......
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Reg's corner » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:07 am

one good idea is to get rid of rbc and Aldershot borough to have its own local authority... I'm sure theres enough will to do that.. An Aldershot council would look after its own and let the true owners [ATFC] own and look after the Rec. Rbc aren't doing a very good job.. as we all know. solved.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Dr Jim Royle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:35 am

An old topic that just goes round and round. I love The Rec, the memories etc.
BUT
Our BOD has openly stated maintaining costs a fortune, our floodlights alone MAY need replacing soon as like other parts of ground the cost of upkeep regarding metallic structures is horrendous.
I fear sooner rather than later there will come a time when simply we have to either move or knock it down and start again. Of course that will spark more emotional outbursts but financially that day WILL arrive when there is no choice.
As I say, our BOD has said time is closing in, I suppose we'd all like to know when that time will come.
New grounds do not breathe soulless into them, that is the fans and ours will ensure that RBA feel in continued of that I'm certain.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Alderman 3 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:09 am

I know it will never happen, but it is about time a certain Mr Potter put back into the club, what he took out. A nice stadium in the grounds at the back of his Potters International Hotel would be a good reimbursement. There is plenty of room there without compromising the cricket pitch.
Also as I have said before, come to an agreement with the Army about redeveloping the Military stadium so that both the Shots and the Army can use it.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Red-n-Blue » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:22 am

I'm sure Brighton fans are livid they're no longer playing at the Goldstone, and will have to watch Premier League football next season in their 'soulless' stadium.

Oh, and those unlucky sods at Burton. Fancy, having to endure Championship football in a 'plastic' stadium.

We're definitely better off in a crumbling ground that we don't own - a ground which has cost us millions of pounds in rent and repairs over the years, and will continue to suck money from the playing budget for years to come (assuming it isn't condemned by the H&S board at some point). Besides, who needs Championship or Premier League football when you can watch non-league football with all your fond memories.

:roll:

NOTE: Please don't quote the Darlington ground as an example of how new stadia don't benefit a club - it was a white elephant from the start, due to their deranged chairman, and is the ONLY example of a club suffering after moving to a new ground.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Headley Shot » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:26 am

Alderman 3 wrote:I know it will never happen, but it is about time a certain Mr Potter put back into the club, what he took out. A nice stadium in the grounds at the back of his Potters International Hotel would be a good reimbursement. There is plenty of room there without compromising the cricket pitch.
Also as I have said before, come to an agreement with the Army about redeveloping the Military stadium so that both the Shots and the Army can use it.


I've always thought the Army stadium would make a great new home for the Shots if it could be done. There is a new local community being built nearby that will need somewhere to socialise and it would be a lovely gesture by the Army to the people of Aldershot too.
I'm not sure what Bob Potter took out of the club exactly unless you mean Ron Harris and his consortium decades ago but if he had any sentimentality towards the club, he would of shown his hand in 1992 or 2013 I think.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby margateshot » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:15 am

The Army stadium belongs to the Army though Headley. What is the difference between that and the EBB belonging to RBC. If the government cuts the Army further and want to sell the land off, which is highly possible, what do we do then? The army is a Government department is very unlikely to allow it to happen. Anyway why would they want to pay out money for a better stadium when theirs is adequate for what they need.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Dr Jim Royle » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:19 pm

Thought I read somewhere the Army stadium itself is managed by a third party, even the forces have to book through them to play there.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby Headley Shot » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:26 pm

margateshot wrote:The Army stadium belongs to the Army though Headley. What is the difference between that and the EBB belonging to RBC. If the government cuts the Army further and want to sell the land off, which is highly possible, what do we do then? The army is a Government department is very unlikely to allow it to happen. Anyway why would they want to pay out money for a better stadium when theirs is adequate for what they need.


This is true but what other options are there for the Shots if the Rec has to have a small fortune spent on it ?
Instead of spending £100k 's on the RBC owned EBB, the club could share somewhere else.
The list is pretty short I reckon : Army stadium or Farnborough Town.
Alternatively, there are other council owned stadiums at Ash, Farnham & Fleet which would need loads spent at to bring them up to standard.
I'd prefer the Army stadium out of that lot, if a deal could be done.
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Re: What would the EBB cost ?

Postby ShotOnTarget » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:38 pm

Unfortunately this conversation is 10 years (and potentially a million pounds raised) too late.

The Rec is owned by RBC but it could legitimately be sold to a Community benefit Society (Trust), who I believe are first in the queue if the asset is ever disposed of. Not 100% sure if the legislation mandating this was placed on statute.

http://communityshares.org.uk/find-out-more/what-are-community-shares is an interesting read.

The current board believe that their business model is the correct one for the Club so I would imagine that they have plans that will equal those that could have been constructed by a well-run trust whose objective was to secure football in the long-term for the town, this obviously requiring a sustainable home.

I fear, however, that the penny will only drop when the teams success outgrows that which the Rec is capable of supporting.

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