Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

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Tongham Shots
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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by Tongham Shots » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 pm

Birdman wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:38 pm
Shot By Both Sides wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:23 pm
chimpster99 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:00 pm
No idea where the officials found 5 mins added time from. No excuse though, we failed to close it out. S
Let's all please ignore HWS's clickbait comments and hope he carries out his threat to stay away. Image
Spot on.Twice. :roll:
Walking home I was wondering about those 5 additional minutes. We had 6 substitutions, one a double one, plus two goal celebrations that were more or less a minute apiece. Didn’t Chislett need treatment near the South Stand? Add a bit for time-wasting and that could be how it all adds up.
I actually thought it was about 5 minutes -the Shield substitution seemed to take a couple of minutes alone. Even if 4 minutes was awarded they would still have got the equaliser.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by 80fc » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:54 pm

SHOTSMAN68 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:28 pm
baldershot wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:10 pm
One thing that really frustrated me was the messing around in the corner from the 89th minute onwards. In the end we conceded a throw in, and with everyone concentrated into a small space, left half the pitch free for Chesterfield to run into leading to the goal. I know this is meant to be "game management" - I think it was game mismanagement. It so reminded me of Middlesbrough in the FA Cup.
i was going to say that as well why muck about down in the corner when we were playing pretty well at the time and didnt the chesterfield guy then take the throw in 10 metres further up the pitch from where it went out
Also my thoughts. I'd far rather see us play a " normal" game rather than waste time in the corners. I think you can waste just as much time playing tippy tippy across the back line. I wish Bettamer had looked half as interested in taking part in the game as he did wanting to take the pen.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by Shot By Both Sides » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:57 pm

Birdman wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:38 pm
Shot By Both Sides wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:23 pm
chimpster99 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:00 pm
No idea where the officials found 5 mins added time from. No excuse though, we failed to close it out. S
Let's all please ignore HWS's clickbait comments and hope he carries out his threat to stay away. Image
Spot on.Twice. :roll:
Walking home I was wondering about those 5 additional minutes. We had 6 substitutions, one a double one, plus two goal celebrations that were more or less a minute apiece. Didn’t Chislett need treatment near the South Stand? Add a bit for time-wasting and that could be how it all adds up.
Yeah I think sometimes it does seem too much (and is often questioned when you've conceded a goal so late on), I'm more sanguine because we've seen it so many times before, two precious points tossed away but, doesn't feel like a defeat and maybe a month ago we might have lost this game? I'm now more worried about Stockport at home after what they did today. We missed Whittingham today for sure and I wasn't sure why Hunt didn't start the game. So 5 minutes as you point out may have been correct but you have to play that whole five minutes and not switch off, as someone rightly described on here, letting them fire that cross in and the lack of closing down - I didn't see them scoring to be fair as only moments before we were safely camped in their half, just waiting for that final whistle for a victory that wasn't to be.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by EastbankAndy » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:25 pm

Shot By Both Sides wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:24 pm
Official attendance announced: 1637 (I predicted 1600+) and think they said 97 away fans, sorry 94 away fans, what an EMBARRASSMENT!!
Were you there?

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by Alex » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:28 pm

EastbankAndy wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:25 pm
Shot By Both Sides wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:24 pm
Official attendance announced: 1637 (I predicted 1600+) and think they said 97 away fans, sorry 94 away fans, what an EMBARRASSMENT!!
Were you there?
I also thought it was announced as 1637 (94) but it flashed up as something different on the scoreboard?
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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by EastbankAndy » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:30 pm

Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:43 pm
Bad attendance today like I said at the Halifax game we are not a well supported club .but should do better with the surrounding areas never mind the shots miss out again.win lose or draw they will learn
You really are a dick aren’t you

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by Shots1954 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:39 pm

I agree a bad attendance after the Fans Forum on Thursday!

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by Old Bob » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:06 pm

karlready wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:17 pm
DS would be well entitled to dish out the verbals post-match.He must be totally frustrated with the team blowing it in extra time. If we are 2 points short of safety at the end of the season, we know where they went. I don’t often swear, but I did today. SO frustrating.
Did enjoy the second half, though, and Lewis Kinsella’s play overall.
I suspect the stupid ploy of taking the ball into the corner to "run down the clock" was DS's idea, in which case he is not entitled to blame the team. It's the dumbest way imaginable to try to hang on to a lead, and I am constantly amazed at the number of "professionals" (players, ex-players, coaches, managers) who think it's a good idea. But then they seem to think short corners are a good idea too.
I won't rehearse all the reasons why these are two bad ideas. I'd rather leave it to you to think about it (or tell me why you think I'm wrong.)

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by chimpster99 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:10 pm

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[quote="Shot By Both Sides" post_id=611708 time=1575131081 user_id=8820]
Official attendance announced: 1637 (I predicted 1600+) and think they said 97 away fans, sorry 94 away fans, what an EMBARRASSMENT!!
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Were you there?
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I also thought it was announced as 1637 (94) but it flashed up as something different on the scoreboard?
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They corrected the scoreboard about 30 seconds after with the 1637 (94)

Wasn’t a surprise, low temperatures and first weekend of Xmas shopping after November paycheque.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by MIB » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:17 pm

EastbankAndy wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:30 pm
Heron wood shot 1964 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:43 pm
Bad attendance today like I said at the Halifax game we are not a well supported club .but should do better with the surrounding areas never mind the shots miss out again.win lose or draw they will learn

You really are a dick aren’t you


Speak for yourself.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by aldershot-jg » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:29 pm

Tongham Shots wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:49 pm
Birdman wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:38 pm
Shot By Both Sides wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:23 pm


Spot on.Twice. :roll:
Walking home I was wondering about those 5 additional minutes. We had 6 substitutions, one a double one, plus two goal celebrations that were more or less a minute apiece. Didn’t Chislett need treatment near the South Stand? Add a bit for time-wasting and that could be how it all adds up.
I actually thought it was about 5 minutes -the Shield substitution seemed to take a couple of minutes alone. Even if 4 minutes was awarded they would still have got the equaliser.
I may be wrong but I believe they add on 30 seconds for every sub. 6 subs = 3 minutes. Both sides took their time celebrating goals in the second half 5 minutes was right. Although Chesterfield ate up a minute of stoppage time celebrating in the corner after they equalised but the ref didn’t add that on to the end.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by margateshot » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:34 pm

I wonder if there any stats indicating if time wasting works. Chislett took his time walking off apparently, even stopping to take his headband off for goodness sake. If the ref ads time on for that then that in itself could be contributory. I always cringe when our players start time wasting in the corners. As said earlier attack is the best form of defence.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by chimpster99 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:41 pm

We had Chesterfield on the rack for the last 10-15 minutes of the game, and we should have gone in for the kill. Heading for the corner flag was dumb, especially as their defenders were physically dominant. I hope the manager and players learn something from this.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by Tongham Shots » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:46 pm

chimpster99 wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:41 pm
We had Chesterfield on the rack for the last 10-15 minutes of the game, and we should have gone in for the kill. Heading for the corner flag was dumb, especially as their defenders were physically dominant. I hope the manager and players learn something from this.
Agreed, until we started to mess about in the corners we were in total control and they never looked like scoring. Oh well as you say we just need to learn and move on.

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Re: Match day thread vs CHESTERFIELD

Post by shotshammo » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:00 am

The problem with throw-ins needs to be addressed, we should not be throwing the ball to the opposition as much as we do.
The same weakness re lack of marking of wide players was evident again today.
Comparing the performance to last Saturday's game, the changes to the starting line up were a big mistake, notably Rowes lack of involvement, showed he is nowhere near match fit, consequently letting Chesterfield dominate this area, forcing us to play the narrow game.
I also think there are times when Walker could be more aggressive.
It was a bit of a worry that our four defenders struggled to get the ball past two attackers at times. I don't like their readiness to kick the ball out for the oppositions throw in, in our own half.
The game itself I didn't enjoy it one bit. Two valuable points thrown away.
I'm sure it frustrates the Manager that we have a Jekyll and Hyde team, it certainly does me.


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