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fredandballou
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Saving The Planet

Post by fredandballou » Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:59 pm

Dale Vince the owner of Forest Green Rovers has announced today that all the players at the club will be wearing wooden shin pads made from bamboo in the future. This move has been made to hopefully aid the forestalling of the climate crisis. Are the Shots doing enough to halt this crisis?

Ian M
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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Ian M » Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:26 pm

On the contrary, I think there are a few Shots who would expend a bit more energy on match days! :D :D

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Birdman » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:12 pm

fredandballou wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:59 pm
Dale Vince the owner of Forest Green Rovers has announced today that all the players at the club will be wearing wooden shin pads made from bamboo in the future. This move has been made to hopefully aid the forestalling of the climate crisis. Are the Shots doing enough to halt this crisis?
Yes, we Shots supporters are reducing our rates of attendance thus less use of cars, purchasing of beef burgers, intake of alcohol (less belching and bottom burps). 👍

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Lazio » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:11 pm

What a load of nonsense. Amazon on fire China opening power stations left right and centre, bamboo shinpads is like throwing peas at an elephant even if you believe in all this climate change rubbish.

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Richard Petty » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:43 pm

Lazio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:11 pm
What a load of nonsense. Amazon on fire China opening power stations left right and centre, bamboo shinpads is like throwing peas at an elephant even if you believe in all this climate change rubbish.
You are correct of course that one team wearing wooden shinpads isn't going to make a dramatic difference, not even a noticeable difference but if over time every team around the world decided to wear them then the effect grows and every bit helps no matter how small and regardless of being better for the environment in respect of the manufacturing process they are certainly biodegradable which is a plus. However Dale celebrates too much I do hope he has considered where they are being sourced because if the bamboo is being imported then it could be that the carbon footprint for the transportation is as high as it is for making the pads out of the normal synthetic material.

Bit surprised in your last line though Lazio calling climate change rubbish, I don't think anyone now doubts that its a problem and a problem that needs solving. The only person who speaks up against climate policies is Donald Trump and that's only because by expanding the oil industry and re opening coal mines he secures more votes. Even the Chinese have no acknowledged the issue and are looking at how they (as one of the worlds biggest polluters) can reduce their emissions.

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Stenhouse » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm

I understand that the UK is responsible for 2% of the pollution responsible for global warming, and hopes to be carbon neutral by 2050. Just need to work on the other 98%. Will Brazil, Pakistan, India, China, Russia and the USA be making any targets of their own, or do we just hope that our own carbon friendly air just gravitates around the British Isles in 2050?

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Old Bob » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:53 pm

Old Bob's been wearing bamboo socks for a few months now. (They are starting to smell! No! That's a joke. Not the same pair, and they do get washed every now and again.)

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Mytshot » Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:59 pm

Stenhouse wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm
I understand that the UK is responsible for 2% of the pollution responsible for global warming, and hopes to be carbon neutral by 2050. Just need to work on the other 98%. Will Brazil, Pakistan, India, China, Russia and the USA be making any targets of their own, or do we just hope that our own carbon friendly air just gravitates around the British Isles in 2050?
You could argue that this country has an obligation to set an example. The industrial revolution started here and we were pumping our crap into the atmosphere a century before the likes of India, China or Pakistan were industrialised. Telling other countries to get in line after we've spent the last couple of centuries getting rich at the expense of the planet seems a tad hypocritical.

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Lazio » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:08 pm

All through the history of the earth there have been ice ages then it warms up, nothing has changed.
Sainsbury's charging 20p for a carrier bag wont save a single polar bear and some dopey Swedish girl wittering on and sailing across the Atlantic (shame the boat didn't sink) what is the point.
The earth has the same amount of minerals gasses etc as it has always had, we live in a bubble it just goes round in circles nature always sorts things out.

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by supershots » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:26 pm

Lazio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:11 pm
What a load of nonsense. Amazon on fire China opening power stations left right and centre, bamboo shinpads is like throwing peas at an elephant even if you believe in all this climate change rubbish.
Why would you throw peas to an elephant? :?

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by supershots » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:27 pm

Lazio wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:08 pm
All through the history of the earth there have been ice ages then it warms up, nothing has changed.
Sainsbury's charging 20p for a carrier bag wont save a single polar bear and some dopey Swedish girl wittering on and sailing across the Atlantic (shame the boat didn't sink) what is the point.
The earth has the same amount of minerals gasses etc as it has always had, we live in a bubble it just goes round in circles nature always sorts things out.

Good idea, lets wait for nature to sort the team out :shock:

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Ecuador17 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:17 pm

fredandballou wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:59 pm
Dale Vince the owner of Forest Green Rovers has announced today that all the players at the club will be wearing wooden shin pads made from bamboo in the future. This move has been made to hopefully aid the forestalling of the climate crisis. Are the Shots doing enough to halt this crisis?
This has got to be an April the 1st joke. How can anyone with one iota of common sense think that doing this will change anything.
It's called virtue signalling and is pathetic.

Anything man ( or woman ) does will not affect the climate. That big yellow thing in the sky has the ultimate decision on what happens.

Regarding CO2, the bogeyman apparently at the bottom of all climate issues, it is a vital gas to all living plants. It is not a pollutant as many seem to think and indeed with every breath by all living creatures, CO2 is expelled.

If anyone is interested is getting a sensible view of climate issues, please visit this site, www.wattsupwiththat.com.
It is the most viewed climate related site, with some 450.000.000 ( yes million ) hits since its inception nearly 10 years ago.

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by ACA » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:50 pm

Ecuador17 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:17 pm
If anyone is interested is getting a sensible view of climate issues, please visit this site, www.wattsupwiththat.com.
It is the most viewed climate related site, with some 450.000.000 ( yes million ) hits since its inception nearly 10 years ago.
Disclaimer: "a sensible view" is your personal opinion. I think "the opposing view" is probably more accurate.

Also, the fact that it is "the most view climate related site" is hardly a guarantee of accuracy. If we're starting to base whether or not someone's position is factually accurate based on the number of hits their website gets, maybe we should stop bothering with experts and see what Kim Kardashian thinks about everything... her website, twitter page (or whatever) must get millions of hits a year! :wink:

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Stenhouse » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:03 pm

Mytshot wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:59 pm
Stenhouse wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:31 pm
I understand that the UK is responsible for 2% of the pollution responsible for global warming, and hopes to be carbon neutral by 2050. Just need to work on the other 98%. Will Brazil, Pakistan, India, China, Russia and the USA be making any targets of their own, or do we just hope that our own carbon friendly air just gravitates around the British Isles in 2050?
You could argue that this country has an obligation to set an example. The industrial revolution started here and we were pumping our crap into the atmosphere a century before the likes of India, China or Pakistan were industrialised. Telling other countries to get in line after we've spent the last couple of centuries getting rich at the expense of the planet seems a tad hypocritical.
But even although we are setting an example Mytshot, and I have no truck with that, are you saying that the rest of the developing world are right to continue with pollutants until they have caught up with us? Our 2% ain't going to get very far is it? Besides, new technology is here with a greater reduction in the need to use fossil fuels as there is more renewable energy, something that was not around at the start of the industrial revolution. Not having a dig, just trying to be realistic.

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Re: Saving The Planet

Post by Ian M » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:16 pm

Mytshot wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 02, 2019 5:59 pm
You could argue that this country has an obligation to set an example. The industrial revolution started here and we were pumping our crap into the atmosphere a century before the likes of India, China or Pakistan were industrialised. Telling other countries to get in line after we've spent the last couple of centuries getting rich at the expense of the planet seems a tad hypocritical.


Often the response to the "2%" issue.... might be some truth in that, apart from the impact not being understood in the 1850s and climate change activists seem to ignore the real offenders (maybe they'd get a good kicking if there protested in certain places!)

I think we have an obligation to set an example, and in many ways we are. Still plenty to do though.

I am amused when "Tarquin and Miranda" offset their carbon by paying a fee on top of their air ticket. The plane is still flying folks, the fumes are still coming out of the back!

My favourite is my neighbour. His kids bunked off school for the Climate Emergency Strike... so he asked them if they were really serious. They said they were. So he has cancelled next summers trip to Orlando, and booked 2 weeks in a caravan in Tenby. The kids went absolutely barmy!! He's laughing his head off and is a few grand in pocket. Lessons are best learned when there is an impact.


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