The National League season is to continue

EastbankAndy
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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by EastbankAndy » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:15 am

Dom Sterlings Left Leg wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 7:31 am
If there will be no further grants and by all accounts we do not wish to take on a dcms backed loan it would be interesting to know how we propose to fund the second half of the season?

Any statement likely in the next 6 months?
No, just weekly. Every Thursday if you put your questions into Butts👍

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Richard Petty » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:52 am

Here's a question for someone who has the time and patience to work it out.

If Dover and potentially Kings Lynn do stop playing regardless of what punishment is given to them their results for the season so far will need to be expunged so what effect would that have on the table positions for the remaining 21 teams.

In our case we haven't played Kings Lynn yet so they wouldn't effect us but in the case of Dover we beat them 5-0 so we would lose 3 points and lose 5 goals of our goal difference.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by EastbankAndy » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:14 pm

Good question...... not only us will be affected in the negative. The only gainers will be the three teams that Dover defeated.
I really can’t see how the NL will solve this to everybody’s liking😟

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Chalkie » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:32 am

Richard Petty wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:52 am
Here's a question for someone who has the time and patience to work it out.

If Dover and potentially Kings Lynn do stop playing regardless of what punishment is given to them their results for the season so far will need to be expunged so what effect would that have on the table positions for the remaining 21 teams.
I believe this to be correct.
Halifax and Maidenhead would gain the most, whereas Wrexham and Bromley would lose the most.

Figures in brackets are current standings,

1 Torquay (1) 21 12 4 5 42 23 19 40
2 Sutton United (2) 19 11 4 4 31 17 14 37
3 Eastleigh (4) 20 10 7 3 30 19 11 37
4 Hartlepool (3) 21 11 3 7 30 23 7 36
5 Notts Co. (5) 18 10 3 5 25 14 11 33
6 Stockport (6) 21 9 6 6 27 21 6 33
7 Maidenhead United (10) 19 9 5 5 28 25 3 32
8 Altrincham (9) 23 8 6 9 28 30 -2 30
9 Halifax (12) 21 8 5 8 35 28 7 29
10 Boreham Wood (8) 20 8 5 7 22 20 2 29
11 Wrexham (7) 21 8 5 8 25 25 0 29
12 Aldershot (11) 22 8 4 10 27 33 -6 28
13 Chesterfield (15) 19 8 3 8 31 23 8 27
14 Solihull Moors (14) 17 7 3 7 17 19 -2 24
15 Woking (16) 19 6 5 8 22 22 0 23
16 Yeovil (17) 20 6 4 10 26 32 -6 22
17 Bromley (13) 18 5 6 7 23 24 -1 21
18 Dag and Red (18) 19 5 5 9 16 26 -10 20
19 Wealdstone (19) 19 5 4 10 25 42 -17 19
20 Weymouth (20) 21 4 4 13 20 33 -13 16
21 Barnet (22) 18 3 3 12 15 42 -27 12
22 Dover (23) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
23 King's Lynn Town (21) 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Richard Petty » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:09 am

That's actually not too bad from the point of view of the integrity of the league, its not ideal but it doesn't dramatically alter the standings other than for the specific cases you mentioned.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by stevieshot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:33 pm

Is it a fact there's no relegation

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Richard Petty » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:42 pm

stevieshot wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:33 pm
Is it a fact there's no relegation
Subject to the FA ratifying the outcome of the National League vote yes it is a fact.

However there is one caveat to that which is that some of the clubs in NLS & NLN are considering taking legal action to overturn the Null & Void part of the vote to allow for promotion. In the very unlikely event that they were to win any such action then relegation would have to be reinstated or run with with a much larger league next season.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by stevieshot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:45 pm

Thank you RP, I thought it wasn't finalised yet.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Richard Petty » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:53 pm

stevieshot wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:45 pm
Thank you RP, I thought it wasn't finalised yet.
Option 4 on the vote was to terminate and Null and void the season with no promotion or relegation. NLS & NLN voted in favour of option 4 which means they have no teams being promoted.

National League (our league) voted to play on thereby with promotion and relegation however as NLS and NLN voted to "Null and Void" that by default means no teams can be relegated from our league if they are not being replaced.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Weybourne Shot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:42 pm

Further to the above league table minus Dover's results - should Kings Lynn pull out then Bromley stand to lose another 6 points having already played and beaten them twice. Nine other clubs would lose 3 points including Hartlepool and Sutton while leaders Torquay would lose a point. We would move up to 10th above Wrexham and Boreham Wood.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Chalkie » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:11 pm

Weybourne Shot wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:42 pm
Further to the above league table minus Dover's results - should Kings Lynn pull out then Bromley stand to lose another 6 points having already played and beaten them twice. Nine other clubs would lose 3 points including Hartlepool and Sutton while leaders Torquay would lose a point. We would move up to 10th above Wrexham and Boreham Wood.
Points have already been deducted that clubs achieved against KIngs Lynn.
Dover and Kings Lynn in the table are showing Played 0 Points 0.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Weybourne Shot » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:19 pm

Oops ..apologies should have looked closer 👍

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Chalkie » Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:26 am

Wealdstone's chairman has now issued a statement on their situation:
https://www.wealdstone-fc.com/post/an-u ... r-chairman

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by Old Bob » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:16 am

Chalkie wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:26 am
Wealdstone's chairman has now issued a statement on their situation:
https://www.wealdstone-fc.com/post/an-u ... r-chairman
That's an excellent statement, setting out clearly the difficulty of the current situation, for all NL clubs, not just Wealdstone.

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Re: The National League season is to continue

Post by CH » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:11 am

Wealdstone do appear from the outside to be very well run. Putting many "bigger" clubs at this level to shame.


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